't carry mace, you can't do anything legally on campus there or in most places here in new york city. so the answer from this guy in the house in colorado is, i mean, the college campus in colorado springs is saying, urinate on your attacker. i mean, that's what women are left to consider. >> the whole thing is pretty amazing, isn't it? and leslie, i think it would be a political issue rather than a gender issue if the gentleman involved were a republican and he was talking about legitimate fear of rape. >> no, you're wrong. >> well, okay, but if it was a legitimate fear of rape that he was talking about, maybe you wouldn't do it, that certainly would be the story line if this guy was a republican, it would be embl emblematic of everything that the republicans say, but he sounds like in the rules he's offering up for self-defense, which is not self-defense at all, are absurd. they sound like they're coming from the university of riyadh in saudi arabia, like they're coming from the 1920's in the united states of america and the idea that the best way to keep women safe is to disarm them,
